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Anchoring Mobile Warp Disruptors (bubbles) outside a POS

I am currently adjusting the setup of my POS inside a wormhole. In an attempt to prevent attackers from wanting to use smart-bombing battleships, I intend to anchor Mobile Warp Disruptors near the external defenses.

I have previously noticed that Mobile Small Warp Disruptor I's can not be anchored within 5km of any POS module. This distance also happens to be the radius of the warp disruption field the small bubbles generate.

Do all the bubble sizes (both t1 and t2) require 5km of space free of anchored objects, or is the anchoring distance always equal to the bubble's radius? Is it possible to anchor a bubble and then anchor a POS defense module inside the bubble and overcome the 5km limit?

I can not currently test this myself, as I am only able to utilize Mobile Small Warp Disruptor I's until I complete further training.

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b.b. [ Editor ]

I have recently completed the needed training. A bit of testing was done and all sizes of bubbles have an anchoring limit of only 5km. This includes T2 larges.

Testing also showed that a warp disruption bubble could be anchored, and POS guns anchored inside the active bubble. This did allow whole batteries to "protected" by a medium or large Mobile Warp Disruptor.

I believe the 5km anchoring limits are something that carries over from secure containers, which are the only other item I can think of offhand that uses the same anchoring dynamics.

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melissa blick [ Editor ]

First, let me explain where the 5km comes from. That is the radius of your t1 small bubble. And you cannot anchor anything inside your bubble. Nor can you anchor a bubble when the bubble will enclose something that is already anchored. Looks like it is possible to anchor stuff inside a bubble after all (see B.B.'s answer below).

However, I would still anchor drag bubbles near the pos, aligned to celestials. I would also anchor a few cans at the catch point of the drag bubbles to decloak unwary ships. Lastly, I would make sure that a good number of my pos guns have the bubble catch point within their optimal range :) I find that small bubbles are ideal for this task.

However, note that small bubbles are very easy to kill. Bubbles with greater radius are better, but this increases the chance that friendly ships will get caught on the bubble while returned from randomly spawned ratting and mining sites. As Rashmika said, smartbombing battleships are better defended against by a few neuts. Instead of training for large bubbles, you will likely be better served by training Starbase Defence Management 4 (consider a pos gunner alt). Nothing discourages a battleship like getting hit by 4 large arties with Republic Fleet Fusion XL (over 30k alpha, nearly 40k with faction arties).

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matt_12
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be careful when spawning can’s at the bubbles, this is of course standard alliance practice, however, CCP has already stated it doesn’t like this. One or two you may get away with, but the more you have the more likely they are to be able to petition the loss. I once saw a large bubble with litterally tens of cans everywhere and the lag of loading grid in my cov-ops was pretty dia.

b.b.
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I completed training, and did some testing. This answer was proved to be incorrect.

melissa blick
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Looks like it is possible to anchor stuff inside a bubble as long as you stay at least 5km away from anything else that is anchored. I had been anchoring cans outside bubbles without realising this.

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rashmika [ Editor ]

"Is it possible to anchor a bubble and then anchor a POS defense module inside the bubble and overcome the 5km limit?"

No, you won't be able to deploy the POS if anything is already anchored there.

If you want to deter smart bombing battleships, perhaps a few neut batteries to cap them out?

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b.b.
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To clarify the POS is anchored.

It has defenses on six sides (top, bottom, front, back, left, and right). Each set of batteries, ECM, damps, webbers, disruptors, scrambler, nuets, and/or ECM is spaced atleast 10km from each other module. These six clusters I would like to each bubble. The reason is scramblers and disruptors take a little bit of time to lock onto targets due to their poor sensor resolution.

Picture a POS with six bubbles around it, and defenses anchored inside the bubbles.

b.b.
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Well worst case, my training finishes in another week or two, and then I will be able to test.

rashmika
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My apologies, I misread it. However I still do not believe you can deploy the bubble first and then anchor inside it! Rash.

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