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How do I make a profit from researched blueprints?

Suppose I invested in a lot of t1 BPO's (rigs,ammo,ships and assorted modules) and researched them to reasonable Material Efficiency levels inside a POS. By reasonable I mean 0% wastage for everything other than low-end minerals. Now with an industrial alt with Production Efficiency 5, I expected to buy minerals off buy orders, manufacture stuff and sell them with a decent margin. But for most of the BPO's, I found that I'd actually be making a loss doing this. Even the ones where there would a profit (mostly the ammo bpo's), it would be so marginal that it's not worth the effort (plus it's likely that I'm forgetting to account for some incidental expense which would turn this into a loss).

So how would someone go about making a profit from a whole bunch of well researched bpo's? Other than directly re-selling the bpo's on contracts, I can't think of any right now.

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matt_12 [ Editor ]

it's hard if you or your corp don't mine your own roids. Miners want their proft, builders want theirs, and customers don't want to pay more, especially considering most of the time they can salvage most of the modules they need.

Profit margins are tight. you can only build meta one/zero stuff so PVP'ers will likely only thing you build that most will buy is ships and Ratting ammo.

my advice is build ships and ammo/cap booster/consumables.

Be careful which ones you go for though, buying a Drake BPO for example may seem sensible as the ship is so well loved by PVE'rs however PVE'rs don't lose their ships very often and there are a lot of Drake builders to compete against.

Good ones to look into starting small are Rifters, punishers, Ruptures, Vexor, Blackbird, Hurricane.

Another good way of choosing is to look at the killboards and see which ships in each class have the most kills and losses... losses because they will want to be replaced, kills because it is important to see whats doing the killing as they are also popular ships.

eitherway I'm afraid Carebearing isn't what it used to be, which is upsetting.

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melissa blick
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Right now we already build ammo and ships for internal corp use. I doubt it’s any cheaper than buying it off buy orders, but provides convenience.

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ecaf ersa [ Editor ]

You can always get into copying your BPOs to make BPCs to sell as it requires only the BPO, a slot to do the copying in and of course time.

Whether you can make money on that depends of course on what BPOs you have.

I found capital ship and capital ship component BPCs to be a good source of income but the BPOs are very expensive (750m to "pick a number out of the air" billion depending on the ship/component) and take a while to research especially for the ships. The problem with this is the availability of research and copy slots in NPC stations - you can basically forget research slots as there are corps around that charge a fee to research your BPO in their POS and in order to maximise their profit will take up all the NPC station slots in the area deliberately to force people into using their service.

So to make the most of this you basically need your own POS which is expensive to set up, costs fuel to run, requires you to be in a player corp and will have to be in low sec unless your corp has a very good (> 5) standing to the local faction. Low sec POSes then bring their own special requirements.

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melissa blick
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The whole idea came about because we already have several pos’s with dozens of research/manufacturing slots running empty. We are trying to turn those slots into isk income somehow.

melissa blick
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BPC’s have to be sold on contracts, possibly in Jita. The effort required to make BPC’s, ferry them to jita and put them on contracts doesn’t seem to be worth the meagre profits.

snellopi
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Invent T2 BPC from T1 BPC + invention materials. If the T1 BPO is properly researched you’ll make a profit on selling the T2 BPC. There is a chance that the invention will fail though taking your invention materials and BPC with it.

ecaf ersa
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I sold mine in Rens and had little difficulty in clearing them out

bo red
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You can contract BPCs anywhere. I buy cruiser, BC and BS BPCs on my industrial alt to build for himself and another alt. It’s cheaper than buying the ship outright and I don’t have the cash for the BPO not the patience to research it at a NPC station.

The Material Level of a BPV does not in any way affect the invention of a T2 BPC. Only the number of runs will affect it and you never need maxed runs.

bo red
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I buy researched BPCs for cruiser, BC and BS hulls because: it’s cheaper to build from these for myself and my alt; if it’s priced right I can make a profit on finished hulls I sell; I don’t have the resources to buy and research a BPO myself. For example, I’ve paid 6,000,000ISK for a 10 run Hurricane BPC (ML ~50). I made my money back building and selling 1 Hurricane. I’ve sold 3 others and built 1 for myself. The savings/earnings so far is over 25,000,000ISK and I still have 5 runs left. NOTE: Material Level does not affect invention at all. Use unresearched BPOs to make invention copies.

serker
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But for building t2 version you will need t1 module/ship. That’s where good BPO will be useful.

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