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How do I maximise ISK gain from LP rewards?

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Using LP gained from running mission, What are some good items to buy at the LP store to sell for profit?

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ecaf ersa [ Editor ]

Faction ammo is where it's at. Nearly all PvPers will use it and personally I prefer it to T2 ammo every time.

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serker
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Good, but you will eventually go insane trying to sell all ammo you get with crazy amounts of LP from Level 5s. And t2 ammo got buffed recently…

matt_12
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True T2 has been buffed, however this is what sell orders are for?!

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liverpooler [ Editor ]

You gotta work on a spreadsheet, with info from http://www.ellatha.com/eve/LP_Stores.asp

There is not easy way to say which items will sell for a profit, since this varies by:

a. where you are selling the product b. how much LP you have to buy stuff with c. which corp you have your LP with.

So starting with that website, create a spreadsheet with isk/lp calculations and work it out.

Usually, ammo, certain modules etc work best. Some expensive implants (hardwirings) are great too. Your mileage will vary with the corporation you have the LP with. For the most profit ever, try grinding LP with the Thukker tribe, and buying and selling Nomad implant sets. By a quick back-of-the-envelope calculation, this turns out to more than 6000 isk per LP. However, running missions for the Thukker tribe will have its disadvantages due to scarcity of agents, and the possibility of quickly losing standings with major factions. I just wanted to give a concrete example of why it is difficult to name items that are profitable for LP -> ISK conversion without taking other factors into account.

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redmage
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LiverPool is right. You can’t go wrong with the ammo. Get the pvp and PVE best, and sell them in mission hubs/pvp areas. the LP/ISK on ammo is as good as the LP/ISK on good mods.

rashmika
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Agreed, when is comes to trade in EVE you need a spreadsheet!

serker
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So true, so true.

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melissa blick [ Editor ]

Faction ammo is the easiest. Every npc corp sells this. High market volume, decent returns and no additional effort needed. Sell your ammo in 0.0/lowsec for 10-20% markup over prices in mission hubs.

If you want better returns, you will have to break out those industry/trade skills. Learning implants, pre-built ships usually have poor returns. Fancy 3% and 5% implants have far better returns than faction ammo, but plagued with low volume. As LivePooler said, you need to make a spreadsheet with average buying price, market volume, LP/isk etc. The npc corp you mission for will likely have 3-5 implants that have significant LP/isk returns.

Faction ship bpc's also give good returns. You will need to buy/manufacture all the components and have an alt with the manufacturing skills. This will often require a bunch of tags as well. Purchasing tags off the market may totally kill your profits here.

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serker
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“Purchasing tags off the market may totally kill your profits here.” – it may, if you will buy them off sell orders. If you will put your own buy order, however…

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dave_92

I don't think many people will give up their prized LP items simply because of to many people start selling that item because it's 'good' there will be an over supply of that item and prices will plummet thus it's no longer good ;-)

Just a hint, you can make between 200-300 mil/hour in LP alone from FW missions (for Gallente at least, not sure about the other factions) depending on player interference) Study the LP store, grab that calculator, see how you can maximise LP per hour and find out what gives most ISK/LP.

You have to remember it's not only ISK/LP that counts but also how long it takes you to get that LP. If you get 6000isk/lp but it takes you say 6 hours to get 300k LP, and another faction etc gives 3000 isk/lp but it only takes 3 hour to get that 300k LP they are both equal.

Always take the conversion cost of LP to ISK into account when calculating isk/lp. If you can trade in say 300k LP, sell those items for 1.5 bil, but converting them costs 400 mil (in tags, items, conversion price etc) your profit is 1.1 bil/300k = around 3.6k isk/lp, NOT!!! 1.5 bil/300k = 5k isk/lp

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dave_92
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The last bit includes if you farm the tags etc yourself, stuff you spend time getting yourself isn’t free since time=isk (literally)

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king of veld [ Editor ]

You will need to make a spreadsheet for the items in the LP store of the corp you are running missions for. You will need to account for:

  • input costs (ISK, tags, T1 items; and yes, even if you get tags "for free" as a side effect of your missioning, you still need to account for their cost, because if you don't use them in the LP store, you could have been selling them to other players who do);
  • price that you expect you could sell the items at in your intended market hub (this is not necessarily the current average selling price! If you have a small number of open sell order or contract slots, you may need to price your goods a bit lower to move them faster);
  • selling costs (e.g. contract fees, opportunity cost of time to haul if the appropriate market hub for the item is far away);
  • the rate at which you can expect your items to sell. There is no point in basing your strategy around an item that you can get 20 of per week at your missioning rate when the market will only absorb 2.

That last point, by the way, means that you may well need to base your strategy around a mix of items.

Oh, and you will need to readjust your calculations every month or so. Prices change, and as others notice the same opportunity, your profits will gradually reduce.

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amarrahh [ Editor ]

Sisters of Eve probe launcher and probes are an excellent source of isk profit from LP points. This has been especially noticable following wormhole expansion and a massive increase in use of probes.

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kazz [ Editor ]

I used to favour skill certain skill books, isk for LP the return was usually quite good. It all depends though, markets change constantly. Sometimes a certain ship or mod will have a good return but other times it does not. Also, moving certain items from one region to another can sometimes prove to be more profitable than if you had sold it where it is easily availble to everyone local.

Most importantly, what ever looks good to sell now, don't expect it to stay good to sell forever. Markets change a lot.

Do your research!

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serker [ Editor ]

I've heard that buying some BPCs, building items with it and selling them makes real profit, although I never tried it myself. Faction ammo returns some money too. Unfortuately, those who really knows, gives away this knowledge rarely, so the best way to find it is to make a spreadsheet with Excel and see yourself...

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duncan green [ Editor ]

I never have (saving my LPs for that Navy Megathron!), but I'd say that implants go for a decent penny, as well as faction ammo, and BPCs for certain items.

I'd look at what's available to you and do some research on the market - see what goes for what money. :)

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harlock
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Well I heard the same thing… isk wise implants are well worth it… I never tried it out myself, but many people told me so.

rashmika
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I do not think implants are cost effective in terms of what you receive versus the LP and ISK cost.

serker
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Common attribute implants are not profitable, but less common ones such as skill harwirings or set implants may yield good money.

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virtucon [ Editor ]

well i heard that the battleships do not make nearly as much isk/LP as you use to. so i imagine the best thing to do would be go through the modules and see what will be the best price/cost ratio. implants will sell very well, but may have the lowest of profit (if you are thinking about that)

if i remember rite, you get massive amounts of LP in L5 missions, so i do not know if the demand for LP items is high enough to raise the price of LP items to what you would consider acceptable.

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