Can someone please outline the procedure for setting up a POS in high-sec please, including a list of required skills and equipment.
Also can you setup one in any security system? I remember hearing something about charters, can someone explain these please!
Many thanks!!
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Ilya Konovalov
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To set up a POS in a system with security status higher then 0.3, you have to have high corporation (not your personal) standings with the empire controlling that system. That is 4.0+ for 0.4 (which is still low sec actually), 5.0+ for 0.5, 6.0 for 0.6 and 7.0 for 0.7. You can't set up a POS in 0.8 or higher.
Any POS in high-sec uses extra "fuel" - the respective empire starbase charters (1 per hour). You can buy those in any LP store of that empire.
The only skill you need is Anchoring (usually level 1 is enough) and then any POS equipment you need.
That, or a mining camp in a station-less system. Freighter could load from POS arrays.
If Invention is what you want to do and you aren’t just doing it as a side line, and the system you are in has limited invention space in NPC stations. Then yes absoluetley worth it……. remember copying BPO’s can be left in an NPC station in system, and still copied at a POS, as long as the original is in system. However invention itself (requires a BPC) and that unfortunatley as far as I’m aware requires the BPC data cores etc to be in the POS… Just make sure you keep a day’s worth of Stront in the bay.
POS’s are most prolific with Miners in low sec to hi-sec joining systems, due to the fact they can refine ice in the refinaries and as Aragaer states you can maneuver ore into Jump Freighters… It also is a good place for acting as your mini trade hub, you can use freighters and jump freighters fairly safely if you know what you are doing, and it makes a good safe place to keep a Roqual during mining ops so it’s safe, but still giving out mining bonuses.
Ok so what’s the deal with the pos fuel? can the pos exist without fuel or if it runs out does it dissappear, or just shutdown. And if it just goes offline is it a viable tactic to just fuel it when required?
if a POS runs out of Fuel, it shuts down and goes offline, any research/refining/harvesting stops and current cycle/job is lost or considered failure. The modules remain, although without a forcefield anyone can come along and start to take your modules. Lastly POS’s take a considerable amount of time to put up and take down and more than anything it’s the hassle of having to re online everything thats a pain… A large POS can take several hours to put up and online after all.
Taking modules is considered stealing I believe, never had it happen to me so unsure here, but put it like this it’s an expensive mistake to let a POS run out of fuel, there are programs that allow you to predict fuel needs etc. Best use one of these, a large POS can store up to a months worth of fuel though so no big deal just make sure you put a note in your eve calandar a week before that you need to refill it.
Turrets Yes absoluetly, although I am unsure about EWAR modules like webs scrams and neuts…. No point in putting up anti capital guns though, best use a mix of small and mediums to deal with frigates-battleships.
Ok, so how much fuel is used per hour roughly and how much does the strontium cost for say an hours worth?
You can’t just remove modules, you have to first destroy the tower (it is easier when it’s offline) and anchor your own.
I still have a high-sec tower which is offline for over a year now. Can’t remove neither tower, nor lab without onlining the tower first.
Hugh
Ok, so how much fuel is used per hour roughly and how much does the strontium cost for say an hours worth?
Matt
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Anchoring 1 is the only skill needed. (Unless you actually want to man the Guns on your POS, in which case you will need the starbase gunner role in Corp, and Anchoring V)
Your corp will need a standing level 10 times that of the security of the space you want to put the pos up at!
So if you want to anchor your POS in a 0.7 Caldari System, your Corp will need a Faction standing with Caldari of 7.
If you have only one person in your corp with the required standings, you can get everyone else to leave corp for 24 hrs and anchor the POS after the next down time cycle when Corp standings are updated, once the POS is anchored you may invite everyone back into Corp!
You will be able to put up Labs, Hangars, Ship maintenance and standard defences in Hi-Sec, No Sov structures, jumping structures or refinaries are allowed in Hi-sec, and I'm not sure, but I believe some of the EW modules are also banned.
They anchor just like in low-sec/null sec, launch for corp, then anchor... Position as needed then finalise the anchor and once anchored activate.
Your POS will consume fuel as normal, but also will need Faction Charters (which you buy with LP or on the market) this is the only additional price for Hi-Sec.
POS' in Hi-sec are completely safe though.... Unless you get Wardec'd if your corp/alliance gets a war on my advice is in the 24 hrs before it starts, take down your POS until it stops, it's a pain logistically but it will almost certainly be a prime target for any battleship fleet.
Matt
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In Terms of fuel requirements you have several options in your case I believe this is likely the best solution for you.
Go to this site, choose a tower (if you are going invention go for caldari as you get the most CPU this way, but you can try all the different towers till you find a configuration that works for you.)
Add all the modules you require, keep in grid and power. Then you will know Anchor times, online times, fuel requirements per hour... Strontium is a bit harder, it's only used in the event that the Tower is attacked and it will give you a second chance at getting all your bits out of the hangar etc. I think it will cost you several million ISK to fuel for a day (which it is well worth doing if you keep valueable tech 2 BPC's in your POS incase someone comes along at 3am in your timezone and re-enforces your POS). But you will not have to spend out again unless it gets attacked and saved.
when you put the Strontium in the Fuel bay it will tell you how long it will last... You can also download EVEHQ, this has a set up similar to the website, but will allow you to see rough strontium requirements also!
Hope this helps.
btw this link should also work in the in game browser.
My Pleasure, Happy to help. Certainly needed no paitence needed as the questions you have asked are logical and reasonable ones.
So looking at that link that you posted, which module would let me research bp’s? And what other modules would you recommend having eg hanger etc..
Mobile Laboritory and advanced Mobile laboritory’s There is a Eve Icon to the left of each module you have fitted which takes you to the eve database for a description of what the module does… The standard lab has a copy slot, 3 me and 3 pe research slots and 5 invention slots. the advance has 3 copy, 2 invention and 2 me slots. Also make sure you have at least a Hangar array anchored in the POS with them.
btw the experimental labs are for tech 3 research/reverse engineering. Don’t know what the other one is for tbh.
would I also need somewhere to store pos fuel? Also I was under the impression that the fuel was just one item. But there seems to be quite a varied list on that site? Will I need all of those types?
Yes, you will need all the items at the rates on the left per hour… Cost for about a month on a full large tower is about 100M
As you can see though you can have lots of labs on that one, maybe consider a medium tower if its a bit much for you. You can store the fuel in a corporate hangar, however the fuel you are using is stored in the tower itself, youtube moon mining 101 I think that has a how to put up a POS by video which is helpful.
Main fuel is of course the Ratial Isotope (same one used for jumping) but as you add and take modules notice how the list changes on the left!
no Strontium is used to give your POS a second change at surviving. If your tower is attacked and if it has strontium in it, when the shields go below (25% I think) then it goes into re-enforced mode. The tower is invulnerable to attack and starts consuming Strontium, it is then constantly invulnerable until the Strontium runs out, however when a tower is re-enforced you can do nothing except take goods out of the Hangar array/labs, the tower is useless, point is to stop people stomping your POS while you are offline giving you the chance to defend it!
Ok so you can store stuff in the corp hanger as well as ships? meaning that I wouldn’t need a silo?
Ahhh, the Corp hangar (this is exactly like a hangar in station) bit misleading, but you can only store packaged ships in there… basically anything you put in your items section in station you can put in a corp hangar. Default space in one of these modules is 1 million m3
To store fitted unpackaged ships you need a ship maintenance array, and silo’s are used to store Ore from mining more than anything else.
arrrg this is all getting seriously complicated now lol! Well thanks for putting up with all my noob questions. I think that this POS buisness is a bit beyond where I am in EVE atm.
No Problems, it’s not easy and generally not done by most. Most individuals don’t have POS’s… Good luck though, if you are interested in research my advice is search for an industry corp that already has these things and ask them to show you the ropes there will be lots of tricks I don’t know which I’m sure they will be happy to show you, after all there is never sufficient industry guys around in EVE in my opinion and I’m a combat pilot.