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Invention question, regarding ship blueprint research

When doing invention on a T1 blueprint, when it asks for a base item, I read that the meta level affects the chance and that meta level 0 items have no effect on the chance, does this apply to ship blueprints as well considering that ships don't have meta levels?

Example: Let's say I want to run invention on a Retriever Blueprint to make a Mackinaw Blueprint and I supply a spare retriever and test reports, does that have any effect on the invention chance or did I just waste a perfectly good retriever?

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yaaman

Any meta-0 items used in invention is a waste of isk/minerals. And since there are no meta-1,2,3 or 4 version of the Retriever you got absolutely nothing out of destroying it in the process.

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aragaer [ Editor ]

Meta 0 item gives the same bonus as no item at all. All t1 ships are meta 0.

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do won
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I think that this is true a bit of googling turns up http://games.chruker.dk/eveonline/inventionchance.php And the formula InventionChance = BaseChance * (1 + (0.01 * EncryptionSkillLevel)) * (1 + ((Datacore1SkillLevel + Datacore2SkillLevel) * (0.1 / (5 – MetaLevel)))) * DecryptorModifier Which is widely accepted as correct.

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rashid starfury [ Editor ]

You did not waste a perfectly good Retriever unless your Gallente Starship Engineering skill is less than 4 and your Gallente Encryption Skill is also less than 4. I have done a lot of successful invention on Gallente ships and I have both of those skills at lvl 4.

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ecaf ersa
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Not sure that Gallente is the appropriate skill for ORE ships. Can any invention experts shed some light on that?

kaitrei
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Because ORE is of Gallentean origination.

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ecaf ersa [ Editor ]

All T2 ships are based on a single T1 ship so it must be the exact correct base ship, eg. Thorax for a Deimos and Vexor for an Ishtar.

I am no invention expert but as I understand it the meta level of the item has absolutely no effect so the basic item is as good as any other. Please feel free to correct me if someone more experienced on the subject can contradict that.

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bo red
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Your answer is incorrect and misinformed whether. Making excuses doesn’t help. It should be voted down so that people reading this will know that is wrong. The moral here is to not answer a question if you don’t know the answer. Base items only help invention if they are of a high meta level. T1 ships are all meta 0 and have no effect.

ecaf ersa
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I object to being voted down after clearly stating that what I said was only “to the best of my knowledge” and even implicitly asking to be corrected if it was wrong – I note that the down-voter declined to put his name and reason behind his action. If you feel the need to down vote then at least stand behind your action and explain why!

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