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Leadership skills - Fleet Boosting

I have a one man corp, but am part of an Alliance. I would like to take advantage of my leadership shills, but, of course, I have no corp mates to fleet with. Most of my Alliance does not operate near me, and I am not particularly interested in have people join me in my activities in any event.

Question: If I fleet with another random alliance member, who may not even be in my system, will my leadership skills be applied to my stats? And while we are at it, what risks can you think of in doing this?

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psyrelle [ Editor ]

you have to have another person in your system to get the boost.

train up an alt or create an trial every 21 day which you uses to be in your fleet

though i would recomend getting more people in your corp and start doing things as a corp.

edit fixed an typo

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daddy worbucks
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bummer. I have only the one computer. I dont suppose there is an easy way to use two instances of EVE on one computer?

camon bear
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yeah, just launch the eve client again. you can run as running clients on your computer, as your computer can cope with. This ain’t WoW :–)

camon bear
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yeah, just launch the eve client again. you can run as many clients on your computer, as your computer can cope with. This ain’t WoW :–)

daddy worbucks
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Well that didn’t work out too well. CCP told me to limit myself to one trial or subscription account. Thats wierd, I would have thought they would want as many accounts per subsctiber as possible. thats their bottom line they are messing with isn’t it?

rokera
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That’s a trial limitation, for exactly this reason — they’d rather you subscribe an account instead of creating new throwaways every three weeks. You can run as many subscribed accounts at once as your computer can handle.

psyrelle
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you can only have severel instances of eve open at the same time if all of them is active subs…. that means it dosent matter if you have 2 open or 200 as long they are active…

but you can’t have 1 active sub and 1 trial open at the same time since ccp limits that. so to use it the strategi with a trial you have to have a second computer

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duncan green [ Editor ]

You need to be designated sqad/wing/fleet booster, and there needs to be a legal squad/wing/fleet leader/commander in the same system as you, and then the booster's skills will be applied.

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rashmika
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It’s worth bearing in mind that all three command positions automaticaly defualt to the relevant booster. For example, Squad Commanders are by default the Squad booster. Wing Commanders are by default the Wing Booster and so on. You can designate anyone else in your fleet to be a booster though.

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ankbar [ Editor ]

While I completely understand playing an MMO in "solo mode"--I've done it quite a bit myself, you will also have to understand that you will not be able to do everything w/o a group, because it is an MMO. Either get friends to fly with, or give up on wanting to get a bonus from leadership skill. My 2 cents.

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rashmika
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Very true! You can have a lot of fun with a group of people flying a:

1: Zealot 2: Arazu 3: Falcon 4: Rapier 5: Sleipiner

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rashmika [ Editor ]

At the most basic level, for this to work you need two people in the same system. One person needs to have leadership trained to level one and must occupy the Squad Commander slot. The second person needs nothing special trained but must occupy a Squad Member slot.

You must then both be in the same system, and any bonuses the Squad commander has will be applied to the Squad Commander and the Squad Member.

You could, if you wish, designate the Squad Member as the booster. Any bonuses would then come from the Squad Member skills (if (s)he has any) instead.

EDIT: I am actually writing a blog entry for my missus about Fleet stuff. I'll try nad link it here if I ever get it finished!

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sacrophyte

You could always try Sisi (Singularity), the test server. That way, there are no permanent risks. =) Fly out to one of the test systems and look for other pilots and ask around in local; most anonymous pilots I have run into are very nice, even if they are pirates. grin

You only provide fleet bonuses if you have the skill to manage those under you or you have been assigned to be the fleet booster by someone higher up the food chain. For instance, when you start a fleet, you are by default the fleet commander. Unless you have the Fleet Commander skill trained to at least 1, you are not going to give any bonuses. Throw yourself down to squad member (or Squad Leader if you have skills for that) and watch for a little green checkmark in the upper left of the Fleet window.

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daddy worbucks
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I see, so if I am my own FC and do not have the FC skill I will not provide myself or others boosts, even if I am also the assigned fleet booster? What if another player is FC and he assigns me booster, but he also does not have the FC skill?

duncan green
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As the Boss, you can set yourself (or whoever) as Squad Commander instead of FC or WC – as you only need basic Leadership to be a SC.

sacrophyte
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As Rashmika hinted at, you need 2+ people to make this work. =) Bonsues “trickle” down from the FC, through the WC and SC to squad members. If each person in the chain has leadership V. For something simple like a two-man setup, assign the fleet booster to one pilot who is the squad commander, and leave the other pilot in the same squad.

rashmika
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Well they don’t have to trickle down from FC to WC to SC to squad member :P Think of it as a road map. You need to be able to drive from the Fleet Commander position, to the Wing COmmander position, to the Squad Commander position to finally reach your destination at the Squad Member position.

It doesn’t matter who drives though, as long as you drive through each of the positions.

Does that make any better sense?

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muul udonii

Squad bonues are applied to all pilots downstream of the booster that are undocked and in system, so long as you are undocked.

If you have a fleet of two people, if one is in the squad commander position and another is a squad member, both will recieve boosts provided by the squad commander.

If you have a fleet of three, with one person in the wing commander position, and one in the squad commander position, the wing commander will give his boosts to himself, the SC and the normal member, the SC will give boosts to himself and the squad member.

It's useful therefore to have the better skilled pilots in the higher fleet positions.

If you have a squad of jamming ships and a squad of armor tanking battleships it's pointless having the person with armor skills boosting the jammers, and vice versa.

Note: You also need the relevant fleet skill for the size of fleet and the position yo are in (leadership 1 minimum, 5 for a full squad / wing command 1 minimum, 5 for a full wind / fleet command 1 minimum, 5 for a full fleet).

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rashmika
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Hi, you are incorrect with some of your statements. Firstly, a bonus can be applied from anywhere within the fleet structure if said member is set as the booster.

You do not need the better skilled pilots in the higher fleet positions either. The Wing Co, Fleet Co and Squad Co positions only require the relevant level of Wing Command, Fleet Command and Leadership skill trained so that they can pass the bonuses on from the designated booster to the members beneath them.

rashmika
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Hi, you are incorrect with some of your statements. Firstly, a bonus can be applied from anywhere within the fleet structure if a member is set as the booster. You do not need the better skilled pilots in the higher fleet positions either. The Wing Co, Fleet Co and Squad Co positions only require the relevant level of Wing Command, Fleet Command and Leadership skill trained so that they can pass the bonuses on from the designated booster to the members in the fleet.

I hope that helps.

Rash.

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