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Targeting Missiles?

I was wondering if it is possibly to target and destroy incoming missiles without the use of defender missile.

If yes; is it also possible to destroy missiles with smartbombs?

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csm barret [ Editor ]

can you lock incoming missiles...no

can smartbombs kill them? well first let me say, I have no first hand experience with using smartys against missiles. but lets look at a dev blog. this is a blog from 08 by CCP Ytterbium. ...this is back when they added stacking of guns and missiles launchers. Bottom of the blog dictates how smartbombs will work against incoming stacked missiles. per my evening of research on the topic i find no evidence that this mechanic has been changed

so yes with the right timing it seems possible to kill incoming missiles with a large smarty. furthermore, as smart bombs are straight area effect, it stands to reason that if they can hit incoming missiles they can almost certainly hit your own outgoing missiles...

a more recent thread (March 2010) on the eve forums has inquiry on smartboming strategies against missiles but has little firm data. just a few comments on staggering smart bombs, missiles speeds/acceleration, and a possible probability of a hit.

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xkaraxis
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I have managed to start targeting my own outgoing missiles in a raven though I’ve never managed to resolve the lock completely. They seem to have removed this around the time that they fixed the bookmark and warp to issue (that was useful against sleepers sometimes).

canhasgank
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You can click them and zoom camera too them, but a lock I believe is impossible.

breal d'nie
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I just tried on sisi to lock my cruise missiles and fire on them with rails, and i don’t even have the option to “look at” let alone lock and then fire. seems targetted offense to missiles is a no go.

canhasgank
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Look at used to work not too long ago… But I’ve never been able to lock one for sure.

redmage
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well, you need to increase your scan resolution, a lot. Think, if you are targeting a frig it takes X seconds to target it in your raven w/ 1 sensor booster (scan res rig), now you are going to target a missile that is 1/20th the size of a frig to 1/100th the size. so you relly need to increase your targeting resolution. I’ll test it later bc i’m curious, but i’m sure you’d need a good small ship (buzzard, stelth bomber?) with sensor booster on it.

xkaraxis
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I didn’t look into it too much beyond just being bored while running missions, but it seemed that the lock would not resolve due to the fact that missiles have no sig radius stat. I could get the targeting process to start but the progress bar would not move before the missile blew up. This was all several months before Tyrannis so I have no idea when they actually got rid of it.

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nathan cox [ Editor ]

"But how about smartbombs?

We also thought about that. Large smartbombs do around 300 damage, medium 140 and 70 for small. That means a large smartbomb currently destroys anything but Citadel torpedoes. To keep this mechanic, we are comparing smartbomb damage to a single missile hitpoints in the stack. If the smartbomb does more damage than the individual missile hitpoints, the whole stack is destroyed, otherwise nothing happens.

Citadel torpedoes are not affected by this rule and while you can link them in the UI, you will still release one per launcher."

Direct quote from CCP DevBlog, http://www.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&bid=596

Now please stop arguing friends.

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exeler0n [ Editor ]

  1. No, you cant traget missiles, because they are so small, that their sigradius is too small and you would need a long time to target them. Longer time as they fly :)

  2. You cant destroy them with other weapons then defender missiles.

(3. Smartbombs dont destroy missiles.)

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blackcat

No and no, you can't target missiles and ccp made very certain that smartbombs can't destroy them.

The first would nullify the need for defender missiles and the missiles would probably have a sig radius less than a tenth of a frigate.

The second would make missile boats useless in pvp because opposing fleets would just fit a sb in an empty high and make a no-go zone for missiles.

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serker
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I’ve heard that you can destroy NPC Citadel Torpedoes in some complexes with smartbomb.

exeler0n
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You’Ve heard? :D:D:D

blackcat
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I’ve never heard of this, and please verify things before you post. This place shouldn’t spread misinformation.

canhasgank
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I am with Serker on this one. I am pretty sure smartbombs destroy incoming and outgoing missiles if they can get enough damage in. The thing is it only really works with really slow missiles like torps, because everything else is too fast and rarely will get hit by a pulse. I will try to verify this…

csm barret
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concurring with CanHasGank. added a main reply on the subject citing a dev blog on the use of smartbombs versus missile

exeler0n
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I#ve never heard of smartbombs as missile defence. But I googled a bit now and see, it was possible. But I dont know its possible now?

ecaf ersa
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I am in agreement that SBs will damage missiles but due to the sig rad of missiles mentioned, it will unlikely be enough to destroy them without multiple SBs running. Should be simple enough to test. Fit a BS with 8 smalls or mediums, stagger them and have a corpie fire off single missiles at you.

canhasgank
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If you want a proper test you should use large smartbombs… more damage more range.

bonsi scott
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The effect of smartbombs is not related to the target’s signature radium

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