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What is the best form of passive ISK income?

I have recently found myself at the mercy of real life (increased work responsibilities, 18 month old minion, etc) and want to know what the best type of passive income (or combination of incomes) is out there for someone with less time to spare on corp-building, pve, or mining than normal. I'm figuring that maxing a certain research topic and research skills, along with some advanced planet excavation, would be it, but what do others think? Thanks.

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ambasha
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I guess the real question is what is the most effective, and closest to passive, isk income. I don’t really care much about startup costs and effort, but once you get up and running what’s the closest?

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ambasha [ Editor ]

I think I've got the closest answer. R&D agents are not a passive thing when you think about travel to retrieve the datacores. However, I have 4 lvl4 agents and 1 lvl3, with connections and negotiation high, and the numbers are 916.77RP/day which comes out to 2,139,130isk/day

...So about 65m a month of almost passive income. This is easy to do with most of the science skills that are used in each region. And the science skill hits lvl5 in a few days. I think this is a decent amount of daily income, even taking into account the flying around to collect the datacores...and I think this is as close as I'm going to get to passive income, and at a relatively low risk.

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ambasha
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I’m going with this answer because I’m making close to 160m a month on 3 chars, and you can take the other two chars on an account (if you don’t use them) and just train up R&D skills and nothing else to utilize that unused char. I used to have 3 chars on 3 seperate accounts, now I’m training up all 3 accounts to have 9 R&D skilled pilots with a lot of income that is as close to passive as one can get.

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parrotone [ Editor ]

Planetary Interaction is OK, but it never made anyone rich (well, a few people from NPC buy orders in the beginning). PI remains fairly high-maintenance as well. I think the best way to make passive isk is through station trading. Once you set up your buy orders, just update them a couple of times each day. Finally, sell the items and repeat this process with the additional ISK you earned through previous trading. There are other career paths like manufacturing and research that can make passive income, but those are harder to get into initially.

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sacrophyte
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“high-maintenance” = passive? grin

parrotone
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^^ Not what I said, read the answer better. PI =/= passive.

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marak

Purchase orders with reprocessing in mind is a great way, it takes a fair bit of inital effort(to calculate the reprocessing value, which items are dropped in missions in that area) - then set the buy orders up and reprocess the items, transport mass loads of mins to jita to sell them.

It can be quite an earner - just make sure your around mission hubs, and dont set your buy orders too low. Even if someone else puts in a better buy order, unless its an ungodly amount, you should even out eventually and get a nice little haul of goodies sitting there.

A high reprocessing skill helps this out a bit too mate :)

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brother ergo [ Editor ]

R&D agents - produce datacores in the background all the time. These even produce if the account is left dormant for a while however I believe this is changing during the next update patch. Aim to get 4 agents producing 4 different sets of datacores, collect monthly and sell them if you dont do any inventions.

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sacrophyte
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True, but datacore values have dropped drastically. Considering the time it takes to train up the Science skills decently, I am finding it extremely hard to even justify this form of “income”. I have 5 R&D agents running; I have to run around 4 different systems collecting datacores, a process that may take 45 minutes over 50 jumps or so, and it only nets me about 100mil isk very 3-4 months. Obviously, YMMV depending on which agents and how high the skill, but the traveling alone is very “not passive”.

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ecaf ersa [ Editor ]

Moon mining is another option here although how passive this is depends on whether you are just mining or reacting as well and how much profit margin you would like.

There is obviously a high initial setup cost with a tower, defences and moon mining equipment. You'll need good defences if you aren't going to be on regularly which increases your fuel costs.

You will also need to attend to the processes on regular occasions but with a simple setup just mining moon minerals these can be quite far apart.

Check out this article if the idea interests you.

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sacrophyte

I agree that there are some good suggestions above. However, none that I saw are truly passive. I take "passive" to mean the money just grows without the pilot doing anything. Is this possible? Yes, but there are of course strings attached. For example, you can invest. This is the sad story of "it takes money to make money", and I found it really hard to get started. But this is 100% passive - you just take a really large risk. =) You can invest in either a bank, or a player-owned indy corp.

I am not saying this is best way, nor the fastest way, to make isk. I am only saying this is one way that is completely passive. Basically, you give your money to someone else and they do all the "active" work to make it grow.

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redmage [ Editor ]

  1. http://EOHPOKER.com play poker with eve money.
  2. Almost automated
    • Tell your IRA to push 34.99 a month into a checking account.
    • Tell paypall to automate the 34.99 to shattered crystal every month for 2 GTC.
    • have jita/rens/ammar alt get GTCs and sell them.
  3. Run a highsec Mission/Mining alliance. Put in-corp buy orders up for mins and loot and rape your plebs.
  4. Start your own 0.0 Renters alliance. People will want to run things, and you just make off with the winnings. Ask IT Yassir about it.
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aeniec
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-1 , take your alliance bashing to eve forums, not here plz. Kthnx

redmage
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it’s not bashing, we had many convos on the convept. Many major alliances also backhand run pirate corps, mission alliances, renter aliances as a way to generate lots of isk. Perhaps you just need to play the game and converse with enough people to learn this. Or you can check the eve-0 forums and see this idea comes out again and again and again and again and again.

redmage
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yeah, acme was created to get a few ppl moms, and IT runs a pirate corp in Privateers Alliance with his alt… forget his name. Always flies a 3sb tempest.

ambasha
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I was looking for more acceptable, honorable ways of making money. Besides, gambling is not passive; running an alliance, however indecent your methods are, are time-consuming, and I don’t need to make passive isk at the literal expense of RL income.

Cheers for the effort and thought tho.

redmage
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there is no way to make passive inccome otherwise. PI stinks, and datacores, even 3 toons w/ 4 agents each on max skills nets like 40m a month. sorry dude, you’ll just have to play the game. Also, most alliances are run to make the leaders rich, ask NC.

ambasha
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RedMage…40m a month? I have one char with 4 agents and I"m making 76m a month mate. That was easy. I’m just trying to find something to cover my monthly subscription so I can use my piloting profits on my corp. And it sounds like the alliance bit of the comment was not a decent and morally sound type but one where you stab people in the back to make your profit. I may be greedy, I’m not a “blue falcon”.

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