Will my character progress more slowly after the learning skills are removed in the next patch?
He has all the learning skills at level 5. He also has all the best learning implants (+5 modifier). Neural points are balanced.
Tony Moore
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I started writing this answer to support the "no you won't lose" camp but after setting out the calcs it seems that I was wrong!
Below are three sets of before and after calcs for three different base attributes with all learning skills at 5 and +5 implants. They all come out equal or lower after the change.
Hmmm. I checked it loads of times...did I go wrong somewhere?
As at now you have:
Base: 15 (highest) Implant: +5 Learning: +10 Sub-total: 30 +10% Learning V: +3 Total: 33
After the change you will have:
Base: 27 Implant: +5 Total: 32
As at now you have:
Base: 9 (middle) Implant: +5 Learning: +10 Sub-total: 24 +10% Learning V: +2.4 Total: 26.4
After the change you will have:
Base: 21 Implant: +5 Total: 26
As at now you have:
Base: 5 (lowest) Implant: +5 Learning: +10 Sub-total: 20 +10% Learning V: +2 Total: 22
After the change you will have:
Base: 17 Implant: +5 Total: 22
NN comments
Tony Moore
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I did the calcs with one skill at level 5 and one at level 4 and there is still a gain, 0.1 with base 15, 0.7 with base 9 and 1.1 with base 5.
John Høeg
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well the learning because slithly.. but we get those sp somewhere… for that i don’t mind and for whenever i create a new toon i like it that i don’t have to waste the first 20-35 days on learning skills
John Høeg
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well the learning because slithly less.. but we get those sp somewhere else… for that i don’t mind and for whenever i create a new toon i like it that i don’t have to waste the first 20-35 days on learning skills
Tony Moore
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I only had Perception with both level 5s and the difference is small so I am still happy with it. I hope anyone who had maxed all the learning skills will be happy with 5 mill sp back in compensation.
Romain
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The 10% attribute bonus from Learning applies after all the other bonuses. With the standard mapping it’s 8 base plus up to 10 learning plus up to 5 implant, plus 10%. In this balanced example the bonus ends up being 2.3 attribute points; it can obviously vary a little depending on remaps, of course. 12 seemed like a pretty good place to settle.
It’s only for those who managed to reach level V in all learning, which is not the case of most players. And since you are given the SP back, the learning gained from them is making up for the “lost” training in the future.
Romain
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(continuing previous comment).
One attribute is very little in terms of training time gain, so catching u p to those millions of “free” SP’s you get in december is gonna be very long.
According to the graphs on CCP devblog, it seems better that way
Tony Moore
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Is this the reason I was marked down? Or just additional information? Because nothing there says my answer was wrong!
